The state Department of Education says District 25 has an unusually high percentage of American Indian students in special education classes.
The state Department of Education says District 25 has an unusually high percentage of American Indian students in special education classes.
We at Hawthorne Middle School have a substantial native population. We take FAS issues very seriously as does District 25 and do our very best with the resources we have. With the failure of the levy and state cutbacks, our resources have been severely limited. If you wish us to do more, help us find the funding we need instead of criticizing. We are doing all we can to give our students the very best education possible. Teachers go above and beyond what is required already. The Idaho State Journal, I feel, was partly responsible for the levy failure. At Idaho State University, I was taught in my journalism classes that slanted news is not news but gossip.
Mr. Fennell,
Mr. Crowe is not probably right, he’s 100% right on a lot of things.
Dist 25 is after the fact, after the damage has been done, however.
Mr. Crowe said: “When it comes to District 25 putting too many Native American students in special education classes, Crowe said the “elephant in the middle of the room” that no one wants to discuss is the very real brain damage from prenatal exposure to alcohol.”
I can almost agree with him but I find myself holding back. After children are brain damaged where do you put them if not in special education classes? No matter where you put them, the damage has been done and there is a limit to what can be accomplished. Indeed the elephant in the room is no one outside can discuss the issue without being called such wonderful things such as racist and such so they remain silent and nothing gets done and the damaged children keep coming.
Mr. Crowe: “Crowe says the real problem is the Fort Hall Indian reservation’s epidemic of fetal alcohol spectrum disorder cases.”
I agree this is the problem and it is an epidemic. Has been for as long as I personally can remember. An epidemic both sides ignore.
He further states: “He says that District 25 should address the problem of fetal alcohol disorders among Native American students rather than focusing simply on the percentage of Indian students enrolled in special ed.”
I agree the problem should be addressed among Native American students. District 25 should be a resource and a good one but the bottom line in this is what were they taught growing up? District 25 is facing a brick wall among this portion of the population who refuse to own up to their own problems. This is a vicious cycle among your people, parent to child and the problem repeats for generation after generation.
He then brings up just what I am talking about: “He’s also urging the district to not fall into the trap of blaming those numbers on cultural differences.”
So Mr. Crowe if we can’t see cultural differences, what exactly can we see? If it’s not ingrained in your culture what is it? I can start to fix something when you say I can observe and see the most obvious component. Granted not the only component but a major one. I can see lots of things that need to change.
I have adopted brain damaged children in my personal family. They’re not Native Americans but the damage came from among other things alcohol and things worse. And yes, it does seem to be a cultural difference, 4 are Hispanic. And yes that is a culture.
I grew up on the North side of your local Native American culture. I could see the differences growing up. My relatives used to take care of the Fort Hall trading post. How many times did I see the government checks come in and they cashed the checks and magically drunk Native Americans appeared. When they ran out of money towards the end of the month, all sorts of things were pawned to buy more alcohol. It was a never ending cycled that I observed growing up. And no, no population is without the problem but yours has it in spades.
Finally Mr. Crowe says: He said that until everyone owns up to the real problem……
OK, Mr. Crowe, I observe you appear to be someone who knows this subject quite well and you have some good ideas on the subject. When are you going to go after the root of the problem? Why do your people abuse alcohol much more so than the general population? Indeed why does anyone abuse alcohol for that matter?
There is a limit to money being the solution to the problem. Dist 25 is an after the fact solution, it does not attack the root cause because the cause is outside of its present purveyance.
Now, consider this, if Dist 25 can go to students and go after the problem one of the first things they’re going to have to do is tell the students, there are people in your families that are WRONG. That should go over well. Are you willing to give them that right to call a spade a spade? I got $20 (it’s wearing out) says you won’t go that far and the problem will continue.
Keep the ideas coming Mr. Crowe, I like the way you think. Please don’t put people in a blame box they can’t possibly get out of, it’s counter-productive.
Good article, Mr. Fennell, needs to be addressed. Again and again and again until it gets fixed.
The sad but politically incorrect truth is that the alcohol problem itself is simply one manifestation of the cultural differences problem. Ignoring it out of misguided motives of political correctness wont make it go away.
People don’t have misguided motives in the political correctness spectrum do they, Mr. Stucki?
Oh boy do they!
From one non-PC individual to another non-PC individual, nice to have company. Now we sit and wait for the PC police to descend, don’t we?
Disgusted Reader,
Thank you for your comments. I have worked on reservations for 18 years, but I am not Native American. I wish I could go after the root cause in every case a mother drinks alcohol. I lived in Pocatello for two years. The problem is not only on the reservation. Did anyone ask if either or both of the two 16 year old boys who murdered that young girl two years ago were prenatally exposed to alcohol? This is not ethnic specific. Of the 69 school shooters in my research on school shooters and prenatal exposure to alcohol, detailed in my book, The Fatal Link, two were Native American, one was African American, a couple were Hispanic, and the rest were white. Over 80% of the nations school shooters fit the profile of prenatal exposure to alcohol. My comments in the District 25 case is a result of my years of experience in that population and my experience with bureaucrats who only look at numbers and political correctness and who do not listen to the people who clearly understand the issues.
Looks like I might have gotten my genders wrong, My apologies, I do it quite often as of late.
I read an article about the 10 myths surrounding school shooters but don’t recall this being one of the links. See if I can find an on line copy of your book.
This rings true with me: “My comments in the District 25 case is a result of my years of experience in that population and my experience with bureaucrats who only look at numbers and political correctness and who do not listen to the people who clearly understand the issues.”
You know what so sad, I look at my oldest adopted grandson and realize, he’s beyond help, no medicine, no education, nothing will ever reach him. All I can do is love him best I can. He lives in a world that is very scarey to him and he reacts accordingly. This problem needs to be addressed and resolved, period.
Thanks for replying. Your last name made me also make another assumption that was incorrect. Not doing too good in the assumption stage am I?
There are a lot of things that don’t meet the definition of ethinic specific but do meet the definition of people who abuse themselves and innocent others with drugs. And yes, some populations seem more affected than others but in large all populations have some elements within them that meet the definition. Wish I didn’t have to do all the tap dancing around to find a suitable word to describe it and not alienate someone in the process.
Bemusing,
Sitting here reading an article where Jody Crowe is a ‘he’ and another where he is a ‘she’. Now I don’t feel so bad. Remember a boy friend growing up named Violet. That caused no end of fights.
Now as regarding your last name, I’m still working on that one.
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This is total bull shit. people that know nothing about the Native people of our land seem to think we are all drunks. Go into any bar in town and see how many Natives are there and see how many others are there, do the math. How many DUI’s are given to Native americans compared to other peoples, check the facts first befor start saying this bull shit.
Why don’t you check out how many children of the Resavation have been posioned by the drinking water, how many have brain damage because of it. I worked at that chemical plant and know what was thrown into the dump by the shell oil — russet chemical plant. Yet know one says one word about what was done to our childern there.
How about the Drug meth labs that or just plane meth on the resavation, our local countys law inforcements don’t give a dam about it because it’s out at Fort Hall , it just keep going on. Yet how many times has my wife or I been pulled over by the Chubbuck police, was not speeding , was not drinking, just going to the bank.
Some people need a mind set change, find out the facts first befor you start making a total Ass of yourself.
Yes we have many children that have prolems, quit daming them because they are not white children, they are just children, victims of a world gone bad. Try reaching out and helping someone and quit posting shit you know nothing about.
Wondered when you’d show up NA.
We know nothing about your people per you. Perhaps, you live on a reservation by yourselves and only come out if the need arises. And the police stop you for going to the bank. Right, they stop me all the time for going to the bank, minding my own business, not drinking. You should see the pile of tickets for those offenses that I’ve accumulated over the years. Actually, it’s an empty shoe box. Wonder how many I could get in one day if I really tried?
Your drinking water is bad? Hey so’s mine, it so hard I have to chew it before I swallow. You say you saw a Shell Oil doing what and you are now just getting around to doing what about it? Take your evidence to the D.A. or higher. You do nothing, it’s your fault, not mine and not Dist 25. Connect the dots, you’re the missing link, i.e. the reason nothing gets done. Show me the evidence. Don’t just post it on here and smugly think you’ve really told us off.
When you change the oil in your car where does the waste oil go? Would like more examples I got a bunch? You’re probably 10 times worse than anyone you mention and no that doesn’t excuse them nor you, does it?
Meth a problem? You bet. Not just to your people, to a lot of people. Oh, yes, why don’t the police come on the reservation and do a lot of things. Because when they do, you immediately rise up in righteous indignation, you’re a soverign nation within the borders of what? Fix your own problem.
Uh, dude, police don’t pull you over for going to the bank. That’s an assnine remark. What was on the ticket buddy, you know where it says what you were doing? Oh, but that’s right, we have to ignore you when you speed, do dumb things like that because if we stop you were picking on you. You are the problem. Want a solution, go to the bank on the reservation. Never leave the confines of the reservation. Problem solved? Probably not. Get rid of your car, hey, we’re getting closer.
Yes, you have many children that have problems, problems caused by you, their parents and relatives. I’m not daming anybody body but YOU for their problems, who gives a damn what color you are. That’s an excuse you need to get rid of, it’s gotten old and smelly. Get your head out of the sand and start taking responsibility for a problem, yours. Stupid doesn’t have a color associated with it. Fetal alcohol syndrome knows only one thing, how to destroy a life before it’s born.
I don’t know you? I lived right next to you and with your people for 20 years. I know you very well, very well indeed. Are there good Native Americans, damned right there are? But are there way too many who can’t function in society? I refuse to be blamed for the situation you find yourselves in. I didn’t create it and you’re the solution.
Now after having let you have it between the eyes, I’ll sign onto your last request. I’ll try to reach out and help but I’m not going to court to get a ticket for going to the bank dismissed. You, however are going to obey all the laws very carefully and not bring the police’s attention to you in the meantime. I’m going to tell you what you need to do and it’s not going to be polite nor easy. You up to the task? As for me, I’m considering chewing myself out for offering.
Here’s my first assignment. I want you to be a leader among your people. I want you to stand up anywhere, anytime you can and be able to say things need to change and make your comments stick. How’s your personal reputation? If it’s not good, no one will listen to you. Report back in a year or two and let me know how things are going. I’ll listen and comment if you want me too. If you want me to listen I do just that also. Either you solve your problems or they’ll follow you forever. If you can get up the courage to write a reply on here, you can stand and demand change among your people, one follows the other.
Yes, I’ll keep a copy of this, they have a nasty habit of disappearing.
Hay disgusted, looks like someone hit a nerve with you , then you showed everyone just how big of a racist you are. man did you ever show it.
P.s ( you said dude ) Dam. showing your true self.
tyhee,
In your world all whites are racist, admit it? Course in your world you apparently go looking for racist things. Like I told NA, drop the whine, it’s getting old. After you satisfied yourself that everyone else is racist except you, you can be translated and we won’t have to listen to you any more.
Dude, is a common term of honor among friends here. Apparently it’s different in your little piece of heaven. You missed the word “buddy”. How quaint. Buddy is just as racist as Dude, per your value system.
I hit a nerve, damn right. Read the reply, police pick him up for going to the bank. That I want to see. Very racist of the police and even more racist of me to notice the weirdness of the complaint.
At present the biggest racist I know is Eric Holder. He even managed to outdo little Al.
Get a new rant. You’re two peas in a pod.
I demand he become a leader among his own people and that’s racist? No, just sit back and whine, that’s what you want him to do. That really solves a lot.
OK, you played your card. You’re left with the Old Maid card again. With wonderful people like you we’re never going to get anywhere in this world except closer to anarchy. Stand on the sidelines and snipe.
Dam holds water. Damn is the correct term. But you knew that.
Can I bait people or not? Hook, line and sinker. Here’s your sign, dude. How many of these children can I send to you to take care of for life? Step up to the plate and show us how wonderful you are. Oh, but adopting children like this would make you a, dare I say it, a racist. Apparently racists are good people per you. Care to join us? Thanks for the compliment, albeit sent in a very negative way.
DR said: “Indeed the elephant in the room is no one outside can discuss the issue without being called such wonderful things such as racist and such so they remain silent and nothing gets done and the damaged children keep coming.”
And look who pops up and verifies what he stated?
I fail to see the connection to traffic stops and brain damaged babies, unless the person being stopped is one of those brain damaged. So Native American when can we expect you in the special education class? Better yet how can cops determine which of the speeders is brain damaged and must be ignored? You appear to have raised more questions.
Tyhee, you’re an embarrassment to those of us who grew up in Tyhee.
embarrassment? Poor little sissy white racist are so pissed off that some one would ever say anything about your racist veiws. Thats all ok because i copy the posts here and send them out to other blogs and friends across the country. It’s very interesting to see what others have to say about your veiws . so it works for me , keep it up.
embarrassment ? yes. a very select number of people here are an embarrassment to the rest of us, thats why i send your post out to everyone i know. So yes i am dam glad someone spoke up about your views. Keep posting, i keep sending it out.
Yes, I know you do. Thus my remarks back your way. There’s another on here who does the same thing. It’s amazing where my remarks end up. And yes, I’ve seen what others, LIKE YOU say, peas in a pod aren’t you? You live in a reality all of your own making, enjoy it. Don’t know very many people do you? Bigots anonymous is your club.
Are you going to remain a two year old all your life? You are a select number, I wouldn’t be crowing about it if I were you.
So you call me a sissy white racist and that stops all the fetal alcohol syndrome babies, right? No, that just shows how immature you are. You rant, you rave, you call vulgar names and NOTHING GETS DONE, does it? Grow up, if that’s possible. Are you licensed to SIT in front of a computer, you obviously can’t comprehend what appears before you? Try the OFF button. No, scratch that try the DELETE key, you might injure yourself with the INSERT key.
Don’t look now but there are only two of you. Unless you are NA, which seems likely.
Dam it’s fun to piss off you racist, just like the old days. Its so easy to sucker you in and you start ranting your right wing racist views for the world to see. show every one how you throw a shit fit when people of color will not bow and say yesum masta. It’s fun to see.
Never answer a challenge, ignore questions but you’re so wonderful in your eyes. Nope, blind.
You’re black, right? You give them a bad name with your childish insults.
The only thing old, is you and your racist rants. You flunked sandbox. After 3 posts you’ve yet to remember what we’re talking about on here. Really solved a lot didn’t you?
Love you too, dude.
I remember, it’s your views of people of color and how you seem to think you know everything thats rong with us. Quit puting a color of people on a problem and you will not be called a racist.
I found it sicking when you posted that when Native American peoples get their goverment checks that magically drunk Native Americans would show up , you also posted that Native People abuse alcohal much more so than the general population.
Well show up where, You said something about the trading post? prove it. how many , prove it.
So a race of people in your view abuse alcohal much more so than anyone else, you said it, now prove it.
Not only did i find your post sicking but very racist, never dealing with the problems of the children just your racist views.
You said you would tell the people they are WRONG, OK, lets see where your balls are at. Go out to Fort Hall , go to the Trading Post, go to the Shoshone Bannock tribes buisness center and start telling people how you feel they all get drunks and abuse alcohal more than anyone else. just let all of us know when your going to do this because we want to see the ass kicking you are going to get.
Finally something I comprehend beside stupid insults, although you managed to input more than just a few of those. Couldn’t resist could you?
Quoting myself, “I don’t give a damn what color you are” You played the race card not me. You like being the victim, don’t you?
My relatives took care of the Fort Hall trading post for years. They cashed checks for the people there. The checks came in and the people who were drunk appeared. But, no correlation in your world.
Towards the end of the month if they ran out of funds they started pawning all sorts of things. Did they buy food, no, they bought alcohol first, food last. It was sad to watch. Did all of them do it? No, but way too many did. Living on a reservation is a depressing place to be, even I could see that. Even today it appears the same way, given the numbers of pregnant women who drink to excess and damage their unborn children. But, per you it’s all the racist people like me who are forcing alcohol down their throats, nope.
I also lived in a community that was smack up against the reservation and we watched the moon shiners cars making deliveries after dark. But I was just watching joy riders out for a moon light ride per you? Trying to keep alcohol off the reservation was a lost cause, why the government thought it would work is beyond me. Before you accuse me of something else, there was a river between us and the reservation and no bridge so, no the cars weren’t ours.
I told Native American to tell his own people that abusing alcohol is wrong. You see, with people like you bellowing racist the instant I open my mouth, they won’t listen to me. But if I can get Native American to talk to his own people, maybe there’s hope. You would only make things worse. You’d give them the idea that abusing alcohol is OK.
The ass going to get kicked is yours if you don’t watch out. You’re rude, impudent and a motor mouth with your brain not in gear and your motor dead. Grow up. Over the years I’ve taken many a bully down and would delight in coming up against you. You let rage control you, not the other way around.
Finally, I don’t have to prove anything, the number of fetal alcohol syndrome children proves everything. Mr. Crowe is right, you ignore the problem and turn it into a racist rant. Eric Holder must be your hero.
“I remember, it’s your views of people of color and how you seem to think you know everything thats (w)rong with us.” Thanks for verifying what I suspected. I know more than you do, obviously. Feel better now? And no, some of the things you do make no sense, even to me. You’re the best example of that I can think of. Keep providing the examples.
Come back when you have some solutions besides acting impudent.
” DR said: “Indeed the elephant in the room is no one outside can discuss the issue without being called such wonderful things such as racist and such so they remain silent and nothing gets done and the damaged children keep coming.””
Strange, you can’t intimidate me into silence, can you? That infuriates you, I can tell. You could stop while you’re so far behind, but you have no clue. You’re a fool that thinks he is learned.
” John M. Says:
February 22nd, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Tyhee, you’re an embarrassment to those of us who grew up in Tyhee.”
I have a black brother about 4 miles down the road from where I live. I go visit him from time to time to check on him. I bluntly told him one day, the day you’re black and I’m white, WE have a problem. He agreed. I’ve been thinking of taking what you’ve written here and asking him to explain it to me, if he can. I suspect I can’t post on here what I think he’s going to say about you without getting censored and big time.
Have a good day anyway. I grow tired of talking to a child in a mans body. Nothing I say will change your mind one whit, it’s cast in concrete.
You have one thing right, i will never change my mind that you are a racist. you say you want to come up against me , go for it RACIST
While growing up I was taught about American history, about the heroic emigrants, and the savages. My father served in the military during WWII in both the army and navy. An irony because a century before, his grandfather fought the US soldiers.
He came back with the WWII Victory Medal, bronze star medal, Philippine Campaign medal, etc. When he returned to the states, he came back to signs posted on out side restaurants and other public places that read,”No Indians or dogs allowed.” I do believe turned to alcohol for solace, yes, call him a drunken Indian.
Throughout history, there have been immense covert social issues and pressures native people have had to endure, by the outer lying communities. This is still experienced almost every time while one is visiting the surrounding communities off the reservation.
The mainstream perspective is, it does not matter what one Indian person may have done, and unfortunately all Indian people are labeled and scrutinized under the same rule. At one time whole bands and tribes came under attack and imprisoned by the actions of a few.
Oh, let us not forget about all the white people (woman) who spend their time at the bars? I am sure there are quite few more than Indian people.
The complexity of this problem cannot be identified “simply as an elephant in the room.” It could be one aspect of the problem.
I do not condone this behavior nor am I saying there weren’t native women who drank with their children. This is a sad and unfortunate reality for the children who were brought into this world and have no control over the conditions that would impact their innocent lives.
This does not make them bad students. This aspect however, is a fact and how can we deal with it?
Overall, this article was negligent and the news reporting was one sided; it was hurtful and a slap in the face against our people. Again, I repeat this article should have been submitted with finesse and sensitivity.
Furthermore, as a native mother who never drank while pregnant and raising her children, I find this article offensive.
Why do you ask? At one time, I did have a beautiful native daughter who excelled in school. She was recognized with awards from Tyhee and was an honor roll student at Alameda Jr. High. She was not only smart but a talented and accomplished dancer.
Our family had moved and she began attending Blackfoot High School. The teachers sent home poor progress report and one gave her an ‘F.’ In fact, she was given an F for not having supplies that we could not afford. She soon became depressed. She told me some of the teachers would not help her. I called the school and explained our situation.
It was a very difficult time and the unnecessary pressure of her young life, soon ended.
Our Indian people do appreciate the efforts and sincerity of the teachers and school systems who are earnestly trying to make a difference with our children in our society.
So, I say in regards to this article, “There is more to it, than just mere diagnoses of “a drunken Indian mother giving birth to a retarded child.”
It is negligent and unfair to all the native families out on the Fort Hall Indian reservation who do have issues as all families in the mainstream society.
Mrs Emma George. First let me say how sorry i am for your loss and how painful it must have been for you to see the hurtful wirtings here.
I have lived here for more than 50 years and have children and grand children that live on the reservatation, I was more than hurt, more than just angry that people in our community would be so hurtful and insulting to the people of the Fort Hall Indain Reservation.
Growing up as a child we had a wounderful man that started a softball team for all of us boys, Native, hispanic, asain , black, white . It did not matter to him , he took care of all of us, he showed us the gift of respect for others, for us that was poor he would take swimming to lave hot springs because he understood we could have never gone . He was a father figure to many of us, HE NEVER LABELED US BECAUSE OF WHAT OTHERS DID. This is how you act as a man of the community.
Yes i am very angry that someone would insult my childern and grandchildern this way, right or wrong, i wish to God that the peson who said this would try to stand face to face and say it to me. But i am trying to contorl my hurt and anger so i will be calling the Idaho State Journal as I hope others will and ask why is this kind of print here.
To the old man that gave his time and hart to the children of the communty I just want to say thank you and you will always have our respect.
Alcoholism will always be a problem as long as it’s legal to consume it, no matter what anyone does, nothing will change. I think most of the time when FAS or FAE happens the parents are aware they are with child but have developed the “fuck the world” mentality in which case they do not care if they are causing harm to a unborn child because their own life is already in shambles.
The native american people are still hurt from what happened long ago and it shows. You can change a person or people but how could you not expect there to be cultural differences or problems stemming from forced assimilation?
From the way the article sounds, it’s as if it can be simply fixed if enough people focused on it, fixing the Native American alcoholism problem within a short period of time is very unrealistic.
As for this disgusted reader, you don’t sound racist, you just sound like a snobby know it all.
Discusted Reader got us all off track on the concern, which was of Native children. But for his information, the truth is that Natives do get pulled over for just going to the bank, the store, the mall , etc, (racial profiling). If you are not a person of color, you know nothing about this so you should take the opportunity to listen and learn. Just because you cannot believe it Discusted Reader, does not mean it is not true. The disbelief is your problem.
Now back to the concern of the Native children. Adding to our problems is having “Jody Crowe’s” amongst us. These are the people who want recognition as having expertise so badly, they ploy to work amongst Indians and exploit something stereotypical that ignorant people will buy and sell. The danger is that the real problems never get addressed.
Mr. Crowe, job hopping from reservation to reservation for 18 years does not make you an expert on anything except job hopping. Do not speak for us Crowe.
Thanks Fort Hall resident,
I admit to being opinionated as hell. If you think I know it all, wow, what a compliment. And no, I don’t. Nobody does.
Native Mom,
Wish somebody would speak, especially to you. You shoot what few people who try to get your attention. You solve nothing.
Indians have trouble with alcohol, always have. No stereotype, just reality. Your people should never pick it up, ever.
LOL! I wasn’t complimenting you. I guess you never heard of sarcasm?
I ->know<- you don’t know much especially about the reservation which is why I said it. You’re an outsider and outsiders can only observe, they are always looking in from the outside.
So you can be opinionated as hell but I assume you will never understand the people, what shit anyone has gone through to drive them to alcoholism.
Comment all you like but your opinions will not change anything, the dialogue will solve nothing, except expose people for the pompous jerks they are.
Thanks you have a good day
First and foremost I would just like to say a native person can have a problem with alcohol because yes it is true, but it can also be true for any other person of color. I have many friends of native ethnicity who do drink and heavily, but they also are the ones with the most difficult trials and tribulations. This too is true for any other person of color or groups of people. Not all natives drink, some have and quit, some have never tried alcohol. and some have only experimented. Now the question is, why our the native americans so harshly labeled as “drunken indians?” the majority of the U.S. is made up of Caucasians, and Blacks. The native american people make up such a small percentage of the world. I have come across many people who have never met a native american. I have even witnessed a young caucasian child ask a native girl if she lived in a teepee, because thats what his history book has taught him. Is this racist? I think not. It is only the ignorance of todays society that shows. The world has yet to acknowledge the non stereotypical indian.
There are many native americans going to college, getting degrees and dedicating their lives to change on the reservation. Unfortunatley the ways of any one culture cannot be changed over night. This will take years and many lives of commitment to change.
So back to the main topic here, FAS and FAE is a serious subject for anyone person. Caucasian, black, asian, native american, etc. it shouldn’t matter which one culture or groups of people have the highest statistics. This issue needs to be addressed across the country. Now did it ever cross your mind that the only reason why native americans have such a high statisitc is because the native americans have a small community? Probably not.
It is easier said than done. There are many major issues in Native country that need to be addressed. Native americans have problems just like everyone else. So have some class, have some sensitivity be understanding, and stop pointing fingers because it people like Disgusted Reader that have a lot to learn about things they cannot understand. So stop trying. Your wasting your time, find a hobby and stick to what you know.
Fort Hall resident and a different ndn,
You know nothing about me, might I advise a more temperate tone until such time you do know who I am. You’d be surprised just how much I know. You might be right about me wasting YOUR time, you won’t change.
Sarcasm from you is a compliment. Deal with it.
disgusted reader,
you might “know” allot but all that knowledge, will not cover your ignorance…facts are facts there’s a problem with fas in this district its with native children, that does not change the fact that they are children…or does it? but by providing help in the schools does not only affect native children but white black brown yellow green or what ever…the schooling is a out reach to all children with learning disabilities is this not one?…but because “Indians” are drunks and they don’t leave the reservation except if its for alcohol, is all that people observing from the outside see…lol unless your a cop.
Given the above post, I need someone who can read and comprehend. Otherwise I waste my time.
It so sad that our people have to be subjected to racism by some stupid bastard!
Morning, tyhee!
Same stupid bastard pouring alcohol down the throats of your pregnant women? You’re right sad is the correct description.
You tried the warpath once before, look what it got you.
Am I going to be deleted for observing the obvious?
Thanks Freedom! Couldn’t have asked for a better response to what I said. The problem is indeed YOU and I waste my time. You played your race card, put it back in the Old Maid deck for next time.
Disgusted:
Did you happen to see the top pictures posted for ISJ today? ShoBan high school boys basketball team are at the top, once again. Those young men would not be at the top if the perceptions you had were even remotely true.
Honestly, I think that you have some mental issues to deal with. Get help,PLEASE!
I would like to remined everyone who Disgusted Reader is, if you look him up on other blogs you will see his rantings and racist slurs of anyone of color. This person dreams up things on his blogs then starts posting them as facts. From what i have been trying to find out about him he lives over 1000 miles away, some say in other blogs it’s Texas, we all know who lives there.
He knows nothing about Fort Hall just by his posting — case point– He talked about magically drunk native americans showing at the Trading post , Realy? That his white none native family took care of the Trading post ? Then he posted the Trading Post closed because they could not sell alcohol. Trading Post closed ?
A day and time of change has come and the racist as i see it are having a total shit fit about it. Remember FAS is a medical diagnosis and only a medical trained physicain can make this diagnosis. Not a teacher or Mr Disgusted Reader. Times have changed , speek up when some racially offensive dumb ass trys to label us or our children. be it a teacher, school officaial, cop CHURCH or Bloger. REMEMBER WHO THEY ARE.
Friday , March 6 ISJ District 25 has agreed to consider cultural sensitivity training for its students and faculty staff. This a first for everyone of color. YOu made this happen by speaking up and not taking it anymore.
Informed:
I noticed that as well. Our Trading Post hasn’t closed, has never sold alcohol and to my recollection has never been owned by a non tribal memeber. This man knows nothing of what he speaks of.
ISJ is going to CONSIDER culturally sensitive training? Well why do they not consider a public apology to the Shoshone-Bannock people in their newspaper? I think the person responsible for the story should be fired!!!
disgusted, what the hell gives with you, you never know when to just shut your pig ass up. are you blind, you can not see that you have pissed off every one with your white racist shit.
you lost , get over it. now shut your racist ass up. for good.
tyhee,
sooooie! Can I call you or can I call you?
Informed,
Do you know what a clone is? Doesn’t look like it.
I am glad others like ( we’reBetterThanyou ). seen the delusional thinking posted by Disgusted Reader. I learned a long time ago when we see someone glorifing them self with their superior knowledge, just let them flap their lips for awile, their true self will show up. In his Rants he showed his delusional thinking that the Trading post was closed and it’s everyones fault on the Fort Hall Indain Reservation for his and others Biased, racist , belief that they have superior knowledge over Native Americans. WoW. How sick can one get.
I feel the same way, the ISJ needs to give a pubic apology for fueling the Biased and Racist views that ONLY SOME HERE have . In one of the other posts a person asked us to call the ISJ , I did, i was told they felt they was trying to bring to light the problems of the Native American children in our schools , not children but, Native American children. Hmmm. That delusional thinking again. So don’t hope for much as for a opology or the person responsible fired.
I’ts sad that some here have a fixed , false belief that because of their skinn color or church they go that they are superior to others.
A time of CHANGE HAS COME.
I think that it’s pretty retarded to say something like that especially when your the principal of a school full of Indians or native AMERICANS!
First off, this whole article is insensitive to native women. Second of all its a negative outlook on education and the educators teaching our children. The matter at hand is such a sensitive issue that not one race should be subjected to blame for FAS in kids. These are innocent kids who need an education and go to school to learn, not for people to judge them based on their race or learning handicapps.
The main issue is how to fix the problem? Right? It starts with educating, not pointing fingers. If the school district wants to get involved and pass judgment on certain issues then i believe that they need to start educating teens about these types of problems. Schools have classes for sex ed, why not have classes for alcohol and drug abuse? How about pregnancy classes for teen girls? Most schools dont offer to help teens in these types of situations. Teens today are alot more grown up, mentally than ever. More teens are doing grown up things. So why not treat them like grown ups.
My theory for FAS is poverty and in some cases not being educated. Pregnant women need to be more informed and have proper care and treatment especially if they have an alcohol or drug abuse history. Alot of times pregnant women are overlooked, especially with their own doctors. Doctors are so busy they are in and out in exams, and on to the next. So its easy to say its one issue, but really its a domino affect.
Suckers, I baited you and big time. You proved what fools you can be over and over and over.
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