What happens after U.S. leaves Afghanistan?
Idaho State Journal Editorial
A year from now the U.S.-led forces in Afghanistan are expected to be turning over control of the country to the Afghan government.
It’s a major step in the United States’ effort to pull itself out of the decade-long quagmire of a conflict that has resulted in the deaths of nearly 3,000 American troops and fatalities among the Afghans likely more than 10 times that number.
The question on everyone’s mind is what kind of legacy will this war — sparked by the 9/11 terrorist attacks — have on Afghanistan, a country known historically as the place where great empires go to die.
A recent news story might be foreboding as far as what kind of place Afghanistan will be once the U.S. military leaves—and it’s not encouraging.
The story revolves around the Dawood National Military Hospital in Kabul. Tens of millions of U.S. tax dollars have been pumped into the medical facility in hopes of making it a state-of-the-art complex staffed by highly trained Afghan doctors, nurses and other medial personnel.
But like many things in Afghanistan our best intentions were not enough.
The result of our attempt to create a modern hospital where Afghan soldiers and police could be treated for their wounds was a hellish nightmare.
Dawood, despite gobs of tax dollars and oversight and training by U.S. advisers, turned out to be a hospital taken straight from the script of a horror movie. The U.S. military’s own critique of Dawood painted a picture of a facility where patients regularly died of easily preventable infection and starvation. Yes, starvation. One wonders how there could be a food shortage considering the millions in U.S. tax dollars dumped into the hospital.
The truth is there was plenty of food, but the Afghans running and operating Dawood would not give their wounded patients a meal without the exchange of some bribe money.
The wounded Afghan soldiers and police were also denied medical treatment, even simple painkillers, unless they could bribe a doctor or nurse. Patients who had no bribe money and complained of the pain from their injuries were beaten by their Afghan caretakers.
The photos of conditions at the hospital look like something out of a Nazi concentration camp.
The U.S. military claims that following two Pentagon investigations conditions at the hospital are much better but the damage to the facility’s reputation might be irreversible, especially among Afghan soldiers and police — the very people it’s meant to serve. There’s also the matter of what happened to more than $40 million in U.S. tax dollars provided to the hospital. U.S. officials say the money is “missing” as in totally unaccounted for.
But what’s perhaps worse is that U.S. Army generals reportedly kept word of problems at the hospital from getting out in 2010 because of fears the news would hurt the Obama White House.
Congress is investigating this matter — which if true will only serve to further erode the credibility of our government in the eyes of both Afghans and Americans.
To think that high-ranking military officers might have decided to let the hellish conditions at the hospital continue for a few more months because they wanted the Democrats to do well in the mid-term elections is unconscionable, to put it politely.
If this hospital, meant to set the standard for medical care in Afghanistan, failed so miserably while under the watchful eyes of U.S. advisers, it’s terrifying to think what life will be like in Afghanistan once the U.S.-led coalition pulls out.
Like many other nations that have decided to occupy Afghanistan, the United States has learned that progress does not come easy and might never come at all.
The U.S. has given the Afghans every chance to succeed. Like what we encountered in South Vietnam, however, a country’s populace has got to want to improve their own plight.
No amount of U.S. tax dollars is enough to bring a better future to a land whose people hope to continue the status quo.
Nation-building among folks stuck in the 7th century, still holding to tribalism, was doomed to failure from the git-go. We attempt to impose values which we arrogantly consider to be universal upon societies incapable of adopting them, at our own peril.
Really smart people profit and learn from the misfortunes of others. Moderately smart people learn and profit from their own mistakes. And then there’s us – we don’t even seem to be smart enouh to learn from our own screw-ups.
Once again, history repeats its self, change the time and place and you would have pretty much the same fiasco that the United States suffered not very long ago. Afghanistan will be no different, Iraq will be no different, so one has to ask, what actually was accomplished after the billions and billions of dollars spent, the lives lost? Anyone have a logical answer?
We’ve learned that democracy is a foreign word to most of the world? Now melted sand they understand.
Every seen a picture of present day Nagasaki or Hiroshima and alongside see a picture of present day Detroit? We should have nuked Detroit when we had the chance.
Harley, money has never been a solution. Good question. Above wasn’t an answer, just sarcasm.
Well said Mr. Stucki and I personally don’t give a rats ass which political party is in the White House or Congress at the time.
Going to war because of a attack and to administer justice for the lives lost whom some was my personal friends is one thing but for our Nations leaders to have the arrogance to think they can force a people with thousands of years of beliefs to change and be like the good old USA is nothing but idiocy.
The Soviet Union tried it and we saw what happened to them , what the hell made our leaders think the USA would be any different.
That said I will proudly be standing on the street , yelling , waving and giving all the thanks and gratitude I can for our military veterans at the parade . Grand Marshaled by Mr. Philip Baldwin a young Marine who lost both legs to a IED in Afghanistan and his two Marine bothers. I hate the fact our son’s and daughters was and are in country but will give thanks and honor to our heroes who willingly step in harms way for our Country.
It will go the way of all other Muslim Countries. Either, the ancient tribual traditions will prevail or the Muslim Brotherhood will take over. These countries are biblically destined to play a major role in the Second Coming! I don’t think that fate in history can be changed!
Good points by all, the question remains, what is the logic behind this and what will it take to change it?
Harley,
I think C.R. Stucki is right.
What will it take? I suspect them ceasing to exist as they’ve never changed over thousands of years and yes there are those who said this was coming. I don’t think you’re going to find logic in any of it. War is not logical and it all points to that no matter what anyone does or tries.
When we leave Afghanistan, Karzai will be lonesome for his head and the corrupt regime he installed will fall like a house of cards to an even more evil regime that we’ll have to confront again and never learn.
Having said that, I stood and yelled and clapped for the veterans in the parade north of here. Hernandez and I both agree on that approach.
D.R.
Very true in all respects, it wont take the taliban long to destroy what ever efforts we have made,be it hospitals, schools or population, they will and have “waited” and will with out a doubt, take control and we will fade into the sunset. While in the service and in New York city, I was turned away from an eating establishment because I was in uniform, while most slept and felt secure I was in a very real cat and mouse game against the very armed force that proceeded us in Afghanistan and they failed to acheive their goals, never did get a thanks or a parade, did get spat on afew times, perhaps the regimes that will come forth in power from the falling house of cards have decided and knowingly that the way to cause the most harm to us as a nation, will be their ability to ask and receive the continued financial support and the loss of our troops, be they be maimed or killed. True, sad but true, we are getting slowly but surely a nation to be despised in the eyes of the world, we best change our “logic” and political bafoonery!
Harley,
Sad but true sir.
Change our logic, you mean “win” wars for a change? We have the power, why don’t we use it? War is supposed to be where the other guy dies and not you.
Look at a picture of present day Nagasaki and Hiroshima, it worked there and then look at present day Detroit and wonder whether war isn’t the only place we’ve gone wrong.
One of the Taliban is quoted as saying today that they can’t win. He’ll be taken care of and soon. They didn’t win any PC contest with shooting the woman either but you don’t see their people on TV apologizing and going after the perps, do you? Where were the guys she had sex with, that’s what they killed her for.
Change is definitely needed and not the kind promised 4 years ago. Money doesn’t buy friends or enemies but enemies like it best.
Harley,
Correct me if I’m wrong but what we just signed with Karzai is no more than an agreement to come back for more talks. Nothing was settled? Correct?
As a member of the National Guard, I quite often get the question, “do you think you’ll deploy again after just getting back?”
If the attitude at large is anything like the feelings here on this forum, I’d say not.
D.R.
Not sure of the content with the agreement with Karzai or any of the lesser puppets. I’d say just about anything written or otherwise with that regime is worthless. There is a book by Richard Miniter called “Losing Bin Laden” published in 2004. Its amazing how the Clinton administration was so bent on getting “friend Bill” re-elected that Bin Laden was allowed to “walk” away litterly, from the grasp of CIA and Special Forces operatives when he(Laden) was a mere 100 feet away in the mountians in Afganistan 1990′s era. Today, we are seeing the net results of those failed policies so driven by the false, the inflated ego, self serving individuals(politicians) that really have no substance other than the gift of gab and a gullible American public’s ability to be sucked in by it! Ike might not go back to Afghanistan, could be he will be packing up to head to Iran in short order!
Iran is not being solved and as a result they think they’re winning and if we continue the way we are, they will be and the end result will be horrendous for way too many people.
So, which terrorist, by name, do we go after now that we have in our cross hairs? One of the ones in Gitmo? We’ve let a few go and they return to being terrorists so that’s not an option. If Bill had any clue about Bin Laden I think he would have gone after him but at the time he wasn’t a target that had “matured”? We never learn from our mistakes because we have to make them before we realize they’re mistakes. At which point did Hitler reach the stage that we should have taken him out and not had to go through WWII. I don’t have the answers, I just don’t back down myself. Had a few head bangers over the years. Worked fairly well for me. And no, I don’t want to run for political office.
Iran is best handled from a distance.